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so i think two things on apple. on the positive side, they did a very significant return of cash to shareholders at the very high end, i think of where investors were hoping. and all else being equal, that was a positive. on the flip side, there was evidence of gross margin pressure in the quarter. they were down sequentially, and the company guided for gross margins to go down again sequentially next quarter. and this is worrisome, because apple is at the part of its product cycles where it's introduced new products where typically gross margins should be improving. so to see margins down, even adjusting for mixed effects, we believe iphone margins were down in the quarter, is worrisome. and it points to, you know, a mix shift to lower models within apple's lineup, which generally have lower margins. and, you know, ultimately, micros margins numbers came down and my estimates came down and my price target came down commensurately. >> but your rating remains outperform, right? you're still telling people you think i
so i think two things on apple. on the positive side, they did a very significant return of cash to shareholders at the very high end, i think of where investors were hoping. and all else being equal, that was a positive. on the flip side, there was evidence of gross margin pressure in the quarter. they were down sequentially, and the company guided for gross margins to go down again sequentially next quarter. and this is worrisome, because apple is at the part of its product cycles where it's...
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. >> and then, how about apple? hovering around $400 a share, failing to impress shareholders with t earnings last night. but is wall street just overreacting to what is still a very profitable, strong company? >> tim cook admits, they are a mature technology company. doesn't make them a bad company, though, right? >> but does it make them valued at 700? >> that's the question. >> just how big a threat are the hacks like we saw at that fake ap tweet yesterday to the market's integrity. cfte commissioner bart shulton weighs in on that. he wrote an op-ed piece today and we'll get his comments, coming up. >> the dow jones industrial average down just a fraction. been a negative day all day, but we are off of the worst levels, 14,712, last trade of the blue chip average. nasdaq looks like this, highest level of the day. in positive territory, keeping in positive territory with a gain of about seven points but a quarter of a percent. s&p 500 looks like this, similar chart pattern as the nasdaq, where it too hovers a to t
. >> and then, how about apple? hovering around $400 a share, failing to impress shareholders with t earnings last night. but is wall street just overreacting to what is still a very profitable, strong company? >> tim cook admits, they are a mature technology company. doesn't make them a bad company, though, right? >> but does it make them valued at 700? >> that's the question. >> just how big a threat are the hacks like we saw at that fake ap tweet yesterday to...
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apple would be a $1,000 stock. talking about what they called apple's unmatched asthetics. september 2012, as apple hit that record high, the mean of the 54 analysts tracking the stock was a buy with a mean price target. of course, not everybody got it wrong. once the bubble pops it goes back down to the point at which it lifted off. the question remains why did so many on the street get this one so wrong? it proved much more successful than many thought google offered a product. and then changed the market and put apple in a poor position. also, kay says analysts have a hard time calling these turns. this is due to basic behavioral investing. >> it was almost exactly 24 hours ago when we saw how much a role social media was playing in the markets. and we saw how it can be very evil. we saw the dow jones go from a gain of 135 points to negative 12 in under a minute and a half. >> an ap twitter feed has been hacked and it says breaking. two explosions in the white house and barack obama is injured. >> immediately people started trying to confirm whether or not it was actuall
apple would be a $1,000 stock. talking about what they called apple's unmatched asthetics. september 2012, as apple hit that record high, the mean of the 54 analysts tracking the stock was a buy with a mean price target. of course, not everybody got it wrong. once the bubble pops it goes back down to the point at which it lifted off. the question remains why did so many on the street get this one so wrong? it proved much more successful than many thought google offered a product. and then...
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and another bite out of apple. key questions about the future of this company that many thought was invincible. and another, a sudden big move for the stock of google before self-correcting. that was the company involved here. what happened and how you can get hurt. first to sue. >> hi. welcome back. we missed you. great to have you back here. we start power lunch with a manpower problem at the nation's airports. politicians are not rising above and neither are many of the air travelers out there. we begin with hampton pierceon. >> here at reagan national, the number of flights being delayed has been increasing throughout the day. a snapshot looking at the schedule board shows 30 minutes to one hour delays. delays due to furloughs of controller controllers business and leez travelers we talk to today think the government ought to have come up with a better solution. r. >> i think they should have more air traffic controllers because it helps with our safety. >> i have tsa approved. i travel constantly. >> the major
and another bite out of apple. key questions about the future of this company that many thought was invincible. and another, a sudden big move for the stock of google before self-correcting. that was the company involved here. what happened and how you can get hurt. first to sue. >> hi. welcome back. we missed you. great to have you back here. we start power lunch with a manpower problem at the nation's airports. politicians are not rising above and neither are many of the air travelers...
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i think apple -- i have apple products. i love them. i think apple is doing a great job, but at the same time in this, this is a stock market and this is a sheer, difficult, harsh, judging machine that is the stock market, and i think tim cook is making a great product. apple's making a great product, but we already have one and we already have a lot of the stock and we don't want as much. am i being harsh? i'm saying the analyst community is harsh. now, procter & gamble, i know it's not what everybody wanted today, but do you remember the open rebellion of procter & gamble at 63 and mcdonald's said you know what? let's blow the darn thing up and give what the analysts want and the stock goes from 63 to 80 and now it will pull back a little today and it's had a remarkable run and that was a guy saying i have to blow it up. as strange as it is. procter is a great company and apple say great company. you have to blow it up and take a new direction. >> we'll talk more about procter and some of the problems in beauty and their guidance this
i think apple -- i have apple products. i love them. i think apple is doing a great job, but at the same time in this, this is a stock market and this is a sheer, difficult, harsh, judging machine that is the stock market, and i think tim cook is making a great product. apple's making a great product, but we already have one and we already have a lot of the stock and we don't want as much. am i being harsh? i'm saying the analyst community is harsh. now, procter & gamble, i know it's not...
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. >> i've got the apple numbers. >> what are the apple numbers, jon? >> the revenue for this quarter is actually coming in above expectations at $43.6 billion, eps, $10.09. guidance, though, disappointing, as gene indicated. he was expecting at the midpoint they were guying to is $34.5 billion and the gross margin, 36 to 37%, which is a little bit below where wall street was looking, from what i have seen, maria. i'll go back through and take a look at the units as well. looks like iphones did 37.4 million units, ipads did 19.5 million units. both of those, pretty strong based on the range where we were looking, as far as what wall street was expecting. i'll have mac units and those things in just a moment. >> jon, you keep looking through those numbers. thank you for that quick flash on apple for us. so, we've got the numbers. the actual earnings and revenues, above expectations, but the guidance, as you indicated, gene, right on the money, it is disappointing. you were in the middle of a thought there, james. please continue your thought and any chan
. >> i've got the apple numbers. >> what are the apple numbers, jon? >> the revenue for this quarter is actually coming in above expectations at $43.6 billion, eps, $10.09. guidance, though, disappointing, as gene indicated. he was expecting at the midpoint they were guying to is $34.5 billion and the gross margin, 36 to 37%, which is a little bit below where wall street was looking, from what i have seen, maria. i'll go back through and take a look at the units as well. looks...
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that got so high on apple? >> i guess the real risk of self-incrimination i'm going to go ahead and say wall street expectations. i mean, the company has done a fantastic job over the last decade with their product portfolio. and they've really come to dominate a couple markets. tablets, obviously, and smartphones as well. i think the biggest problem is that they've taken all the profits that are available there. and there just isn't room to grow once the market is saturated. >> bill, what do you nithink is going on? from the outside it would appear one of the knocks on apple right now is t innovation is more incremental than transformational. steve jobs is gone. should expectations be coming down anyway for this company? >> i think you're right, bill, the company has been a victim of its own success. they beat wall street expectations for over 30 quarters. i think lulled us all into believing that would extend forever. think about the stock at $700 in the fall. people were starting to bake in apple tv estimate
that got so high on apple? >> i guess the real risk of self-incrimination i'm going to go ahead and say wall street expectations. i mean, the company has done a fantastic job over the last decade with their product portfolio. and they've really come to dominate a couple markets. tablets, obviously, and smartphones as well. i think the biggest problem is that they've taken all the profits that are available there. and there just isn't room to grow once the market is saturated. >>...
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we need to see -- you know -- apple's become those people in the apple ad, those weird apple ad at the super bowl and samsung's come along with this hammer and broke -- they're all apple executives and you need to see apple come up and say, you what? we have it. we have the holy grail which is a combination of this thing that you need and that thing you need. we'll focus the numbers and we'll focus on texas instruments. is it a numbers story? is apple just another stock and if it's another stock then maybe you should get a nine multiple and go higher, but i would like to see, look, if mcdonald's can come out with killer products, apple -- are they both technology companies? is that where we are right now? >> apple has come out with incredible products. amazing products that have changed the world. >> that was the old days and the yankees used to be -- >> the ipad is only three years old, man. come on, give them a break. >> no. the market won't give them a break. i like the product, but who am i? >> that's complicated. >> it was not a rhetorical -- you know, we're not trying to figure o
we need to see -- you know -- apple's become those people in the apple ad, those weird apple ad at the super bowl and samsung's come along with this hammer and broke -- they're all apple executives and you need to see apple come up and say, you what? we have it. we have the holy grail which is a combination of this thing that you need and that thing you need. we'll focus the numbers and we'll focus on texas instruments. is it a numbers story? is apple just another stock and if it's another...
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let me mention apple very quickly. the hope here is for a special dividend, increase the dividend to over a 3% yield and start with the big buyback. that's the big hope there. nobody's expecting them to blow the cover off of any of these numbers and all of them have been coming down. >> guys, back to you. >> watching microsoft continue to gain now up 4.5% and let's head over to the nasdaq which partly is a result of that is outperforming, sema moti and it's back above the 52-day moving average. investors are slightly on edge ahead of the the tech earnings and all eyes on apple as bob was mentioning. a lot of conflicting calls from analysts ahead of its earnings report tomorrow. analysts focused on sales of its iphone and any clarity around its capital allocation strategy. bbc partners this morning upgrading the stock to buy. communication players also reporting this week. isi group reporting that broadcom, xilinx and lacked the right combination of favorable setup and strong, foreign ministerial support to expect event
let me mention apple very quickly. the hope here is for a special dividend, increase the dividend to over a 3% yield and start with the big buyback. that's the big hope there. nobody's expecting them to blow the cover off of any of these numbers and all of them have been coming down. >> guys, back to you. >> watching microsoft continue to gain now up 4.5% and let's head over to the nasdaq which partly is a result of that is outperforming, sema moti and it's back above the 52-day...
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it's just -- people love their apple, they hate their apple and they have feelings about apple. >> i love that light saber sound effect. let's get to the economics calendar, thank you very much. here is today's calendar. and it is very housing focused. at 9:00 eastern, you get the fhfa house price index. an hour later, march new home sales. they're expected to rise by 0.7%. we'll watch the home builders like lenar, etcetera, on those. also at 10:00 eastern, is the richmond fed survey. becky talked about some stocks. we're hitting on dupont. let's check on the broader markets. oil down about 0.9%. 88.39. brent crude down a little more, down 1%. rbob gasoline, because, really, you don't care about gasolioil. you care about gasoline, right? >> it's come down significantly. >> yeah, it has, which is good because that may counteract the effects of the payroll tax high. what about gold? let's check the commodities like gold, the ten-year. down about 7%. 7 bucks to $1414. there's been a bit of a move in sort of the euro. we want to keep an eye on that. there's your currency chart here in th
it's just -- people love their apple, they hate their apple and they have feelings about apple. >> i love that light saber sound effect. let's get to the economics calendar, thank you very much. here is today's calendar. and it is very housing focused. at 9:00 eastern, you get the fhfa house price index. an hour later, march new home sales. they're expected to rise by 0.7%. we'll watch the home builders like lenar, etcetera, on those. also at 10:00 eastern, is the richmond fed survey....
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that creates opportunity, because when you have that -- >> opportunities for apple. >> to get into apple. cuts stocks like that. when you have a change in ownership, that's significant. it creates a wonderful opportunity. because you've got a big group leaving, a big group coming in. >> ann abigail, let me go to you. you're quite pessimistic. we welcome you on the show. you have been ae a pessimist. but things have been more optimistic. you're looking for big, big decline. i want you to talk about that. i want you to tell our viewers why you think we're really headed for a problem. >> well, the reason that i -- my work starts with the technical. so we have seen a strong rally out of november. nearly 20% move up. but it's bearish. the buyers are becoming less certain up here. and this really mimics what we have seen in the first and second quarter of 2012 and 2011, quite frankly, where we have this competing battle between not so great fundamentals and then the fed liquidity. that doesn't tend to breed trust. in fact, i would say it probably swings things the other way. so even though buy
that creates opportunity, because when you have that -- >> opportunities for apple. >> to get into apple. cuts stocks like that. when you have a change in ownership, that's significant. it creates a wonderful opportunity. because you've got a big group leaving, a big group coming in. >> ann abigail, let me go to you. you're quite pessimistic. we welcome you on the show. you have been ae a pessimist. but things have been more optimistic. you're looking for big, big decline. i...
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apple will need to innovate. we're in that you got to believe me phase and now we're talking about a time line of the fall. we got support on the dividend and buyback but gross margins and innovation will be key. >> you thought that you would hear about new products even sooner than the fall? >> it was possible that you might hear particularly about a low cost to approach the emerging markets and to offer something for the smartphone user who is more price sensitive. >> hold on a second. if you think of low cost phones, they talked about strength in china. you can't have strength with low cost phones or strengths in emerging markets and not have it impact gross margins. what's more important to you? >> a low cost phone that maintains a margin. they'll need to move some of the product mix out, innovate and i think tvs. i think i radio. something along the lines of i payments. that's what will move the sentiment and move the needle financially. >> i kind of feel this company's pain. after watching the stock be down
apple will need to innovate. we're in that you got to believe me phase and now we're talking about a time line of the fall. we got support on the dividend and buyback but gross margins and innovation will be key. >> you thought that you would hear about new products even sooner than the fall? >> it was possible that you might hear particularly about a low cost to approach the emerging markets and to offer something for the smartphone user who is more price sensitive. >> hold...
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now with jobs gone, apple watchers wonder if others will think twice before going to work for apple with steve jobs no longer there. given its very large percentage of the
now with jobs gone, apple watchers wonder if others will think twice before going to work for apple with steve jobs no longer there. given its very large percentage of the
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apple and netflix. jon fortt, what are the three things to look for -- maybe there's 20, but give us three to look for when they report after the bell today. >> limiting me to three things. iphone unit sales, gheitance and margins. on iphone a lot of annuals are twegting between 34 and 38 million. one speed bump for the iphone potential is apple had a significant p.r. headache, when central tv blasted the company's iphone repair policies, a nonstop drumbeat of negative headlines are significant considering china was 12.5% of retch last quarter. an important side story to this report also is guidance. apple switched the way they do guidance, sake they'll give a range within which to fall in. will they come in close to the revenue as analysts expect, a little higher, that will influence how the street views june guidance. iphone mix. the more i phones apple sells, and the faster it can lower costs, the higher margins will climb. my best guest is apple will deliver up side somewhere on margins rather than
apple and netflix. jon fortt, what are the three things to look for -- maybe there's 20, but give us three to look for when they report after the bell today. >> limiting me to three things. iphone unit sales, gheitance and margins. on iphone a lot of annuals are twegting between 34 and 38 million. one speed bump for the iphone potential is apple had a significant p.r. headache, when central tv blasted the company's iphone repair policies, a nonstop drumbeat of negative headlines are...
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gene, why don't we start with apple. this has been an incredible run up and then an incredible drop. below $400. is this somewhere you saw the stock going? >> no way. this is -- we thought there was a floor at 450, so this is a lot lower than we thought it was going to go. >> and at this point, now that it has reached 400 at least in the intra day trade, does that worry you that there is still more room to decline or do you think at this point it's stabilized? >> we think there's an opportunity here. the street numbers still need to get reset. we're 10% below the street for the june quarter. i think once these estimates get reset, that's the point where investors are going to start to get interesting. the southside still hasn't taken those nebs down. that's the real challenge here. >> you thought 450 was the bottom at 455 or at -- when did you make that prediction sflp. >> yeah. it was about three weeks ago. we basically took our numbers down. >> so when it was at 750, you thought the bottom was 700. when it was 7 hup, y
gene, why don't we start with apple. this has been an incredible run up and then an incredible drop. below $400. is this somewhere you saw the stock going? >> no way. this is -- we thought there was a floor at 450, so this is a lot lower than we thought it was going to go. >> and at this point, now that it has reached 400 at least in the intra day trade, does that worry you that there is still more room to decline or do you think at this point it's stabilized? >> we think...
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>> there's a lot of hype with apple right now. it's valued in the options market, you see the volatility after the earnings report, coming in 50% hotter than anticipated. right now for every reason it was short, it tested the 400 level. our model predicted a 400 test, we got it. >> there it's back up above 400 the how have you been investing? >> so we've been playing in the option market. we own the puts, to short this, but now we want to buy up side calls here, and selling puts, puts you to the stocks. you can own this stock a little cheaper by selling puts the that's what we're doling right now. itches i want to thank you for being here, because i always stand up straighter. how do consumers feel about it. let's bring in cnet molly wood and natalie morris. let me start with you. has the i-culture lost its identity? >> they're a hardware, software, but they're also a bit of celebrity. in the post-steve jobs era they've been riting the if factor for a long time. the ipad is really still the it. the iphone, the sales will be really
>> there's a lot of hype with apple right now. it's valued in the options market, you see the volatility after the earnings report, coming in 50% hotter than anticipated. right now for every reason it was short, it tested the 400 level. our model predicted a 400 test, we got it. >> there it's back up above 400 the how have you been investing? >> so we've been playing in the option market. we own the puts, to short this, but now we want to buy up side calls here, and selling...
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i don't know if they can actually -- apple. i said it! what can be said that hasn't already been said about this freefalling tech company with the greatest products in the world? how about this? apple could say we're going to double your dividend, buy back a quarter of the company. that surely hasn't been said. i don't think there's an analyst who hasn't pulled the jason, freddie krueger slasher -- what have they z i've been looking at what they've been saying. they've used machetes to cut numbers. chainsaws to cut numbers. they've used ginsu knives to cut numbers. scalpels, k bars, bowies, meat axes, guillotines, even chippers, shredders to cut numbers! and they're still not low enough. they're still not deep enough to keep anyone from still going even lower as you forecast. you would think apple's going to report a loss, for heaven's sake. especially after watching the sickening slide of apple supplier cirrus logic today. after it's said there's been a lack of demand from a key tuft. who could that be? a name. the other night i joked th
i don't know if they can actually -- apple. i said it! what can be said that hasn't already been said about this freefalling tech company with the greatest products in the world? how about this? apple could say we're going to double your dividend, buy back a quarter of the company. that surely hasn't been said. i don't think there's an analyst who hasn't pulled the jason, freddie krueger slasher -- what have they z i've been looking at what they've been saying. they've used machetes to cut...
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sound systems apple uses. until apple pulls out of its tailspin you can't own cirrus logic. sorry. let's go to darren in the gamecock state. darren. >> caller: hi, jim. ba-ba-ba-boo-yah. i need some help. >> perfect. all right. >> caller: i took a long -- i took a position in cls at $20, about 500 shares. at $18 i bought 500 shares. got a 3.5% dividend and i don't mind waiting, but what do you suggest? >> well, i've got to tell you, this is a business, the iron ore business, that ever since they did that -- well, this stock has been -- it feels very terminal but it's not terminal, and i know there's a lot of iron ore that can come out. but i've got to tell you, $17. i don't know if i would sell it. it's kind of low. i mean, it's really low. anyway, it's all about the haves and the have nots. when it comes to stock, for now it's sherwin williams paint. that's the fracking fluid cocktail. and you know what i say? time for some boat drinks! "mad money" will be right back. >> announcer: coming up -- core holding?
sound systems apple uses. until apple pulls out of its tailspin you can't own cirrus logic. sorry. let's go to darren in the gamecock state. darren. >> caller: hi, jim. ba-ba-ba-boo-yah. i need some help. >> perfect. all right. >> caller: i took a long -- i took a position in cls at $20, about 500 shares. at $18 i bought 500 shares. got a 3.5% dividend and i don't mind waiting, but what do you suggest? >> well, i've got to tell you, this is a business, the iron ore...
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the apple guy in front is telling me these apples are fresher than the apple quarter. >> the consensus numbers need to come down. i once joked that the new products out of apple are terrible and @jimcramer. people think i'm serious. i think apple is a good company, it's just not going to have a good quarter. okay? okay? shoot me! my fault! >> how about barclays about lulu. >> here's what i'm hearing about lulu. i am hearing that the recall actually generated a level of love for lulu, that the customers, instead of avoiding lulu because of the sheer problem no. they're going to lulu and barclays agrees. this stock has been -- look, this is where they recalled the stuff, carl. right here is where the pants didn't work. this is the pants recall! and it turns out they're pantsing the bears. the bears are pantsed. >> that's a good call. fairway hoping investors will go on a shopping spree today. if you don't know this chain, it's a grocery chain going public and largely centered in new york. get ready for day three in what has been a wild week for the markets. the opening bell in just four
the apple guy in front is telling me these apples are fresher than the apple quarter. >> the consensus numbers need to come down. i once joked that the new products out of apple are terrible and @jimcramer. people think i'm serious. i think apple is a good company, it's just not going to have a good quarter. okay? okay? shoot me! my fault! >> how about barclays about lulu. >> here's what i'm hearing about lulu. i am hearing that the recall actually generated a level of love...
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i guess it will be apple tv. >> apple tv is a logical extension of the largest screen that the ipad was, and bringing apps to the tv environment what everyone is trying to do. >> but they have a tv product. i have one at home. $99. a little black pox. >> it's not the real tv. >> why buy a $2,000 actual physical television when for 99 bucks i convert my physical television. >> today it doesn't have the one thing that made the iphone take off, which is applications. it was at revolution that really took off, what people could do from a personal assistant, games, entertainment and a corporate standpoint. >> dan, do you hear any chatter out there? >> we heard about channel checks, things around. this is probably a year and a half ago, two years ago. is there anything you've heard that gives you any sense that there's something coming. >> so i attempt not to recommend stocks based on chatter. what i would invest in investing in apple is a track record, a team. phenomenal balance sheet. they spend a lot on r&d. you can't predict what the next will be. everyone said tablets will never work. no
i guess it will be apple tv. >> apple tv is a logical extension of the largest screen that the ipad was, and bringing apps to the tv environment what everyone is trying to do. >> but they have a tv product. i have one at home. $99. a little black pox. >> it's not the real tv. >> why buy a $2,000 actual physical television when for 99 bucks i convert my physical television. >> today it doesn't have the one thing that made the iphone take off, which is applications....
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now apple tv? i think they will come out with a tv product because that is something that tim cook said. they've got an intense interest in that area. but i think that's probably coming in the summer period at some point. i think we're going to have to wait a while for a low-end phone. so i look at all of that and in the near term, the biggest excitement quite honestly is hopefully they move the dividend up when they report the quarter. better cash return. but that's kind of what i'm looking for. if they don't do that, the stock could go quite a bit lower and there is some talk that maybe they don't do the dividend when they report the quarter. >> we'll see. or repurchase. when you say "quite a bit lower," dan, what's low enough? here you compare it to rimm and nokia is a little shocking. but ere's low enough given the prospects you're outlining? >> well, but here's the thing. right? why are you guessing as to what's low enough? until the fundamentals stop getting worse -- don't forget, this compan
now apple tv? i think they will come out with a tv product because that is something that tim cook said. they've got an intense interest in that area. but i think that's probably coming in the summer period at some point. i think we're going to have to wait a while for a low-end phone. so i look at all of that and in the near term, the biggest excitement quite honestly is hopefully they move the dividend up when they report the quarter. better cash return. but that's kind of what i'm looking...
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. >> is facebook developing a phone device, like apple did iphone? >> no. we're working on building software that can be used on all phones. >> their latest product is messages, which combines email, cell phone texting, and instant messages into one. they call it the ultimate switchboard. so do you think email will become obsolete? no. >> i'm not sure. but what we've found is that more people are using messages-- are moving away from email. and so if we build a really compelling experience, i think people are going to switch over. but i'm not going to call the end of anything. >> was this directed at gmail? >> no. >> google's email? >> no. >> because everybody's talking about a gmail killer. >> it's certainly what everyone's writing about. >> google... >> yes. >> facebook and google. >> yes. >> are they on a collision course? >> they are indeed. >> the fight's over what? it's over how-- >> search. how people find, discovery, search. >> say you want to buy a car. you can type "prius" on google and get publicly available information. or you can type "prius" o
. >> is facebook developing a phone device, like apple did iphone? >> no. we're working on building software that can be used on all phones. >> their latest product is messages, which combines email, cell phone texting, and instant messages into one. they call it the ultimate switchboard. so do you think email will become obsolete? no. >> i'm not sure. but what we've found is that more people are using messages-- are moving away from email. and so if we build a really...
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. >> it's interesting, that's the same thing people said about the shares of apple when they were selling off, that you had to sell your winners to pay for other stuff. >> if you need liquidity, you go where -- >> i think it's more japan than cyprus, don't you think? >> it's more dependent on cyprus? >> no. more japan than cyprus. >> there were rumors that cyprus was selling gold. >> i saw those rumors. >> to get it started, there were so many -- and it was pointed out yesterday, i think i was reading something from peter chip, who loves gold, that when it went up to a thousand or 1200, maybe that was all fundamentally true. but then once it went up to 1200, but then once all the investment guys that were having trouble getting returned in equities, once they saw that there was momentum there, all kinds of investment money went into it to try to chase return. >> but he was saying 1200 is fundamental? that's still down a couple hundred from where it is now. >> there were people saying 1260 people last week saying 800 or 900. >> so does bid coin track gold? >> apparently. apparently it coll
. >> it's interesting, that's the same thing people said about the shares of apple when they were selling off, that you had to sell your winners to pay for other stuff. >> if you need liquidity, you go where -- >> i think it's more japan than cyprus, don't you think? >> it's more dependent on cyprus? >> no. more japan than cyprus. >> there were rumors that cyprus was selling gold. >> i saw those rumors. >> to get it started, there were so many --...
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>> apple. >> because it's an ipad. >> exactly. ipads there and other companies, google nexus is a big one. samsung has some coming down the line here. we'll diversify away from the ipad but intel is underrepresented there. >> what about these new half tablet, half pc things that are half clam shell but you can pull them apart. does intel have a chance to lead there? >> there are a number of factors. the one you're referring to is a convertible. they are really focused more on ultrabooks and sliders where you can actually slide the top display and flip it over and it turns into a tablet. >> they are expensive and haeav, right? >> some ultrabooks will be priced at 499 this year. that's a new low price point for them. >> the stuff with intel in that their bragging rights have to do with manufacturing process and how well they're doing there. is that a reason to buy the stock? when gross margins go up, i heard that you buy stock when margins are rising and sell it when they're going back down. are either one of those factors enough to offset what's happening in pcs? >> a sticking point wi
>> apple. >> because it's an ipad. >> exactly. ipads there and other companies, google nexus is a big one. samsung has some coming down the line here. we'll diversify away from the ipad but intel is underrepresented there. >> what about these new half tablet, half pc things that are half clam shell but you can pull them apart. does intel have a chance to lead there? >> there are a number of factors. the one you're referring to is a convertible. they are really...